Thermit
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| The Google Sandbox |
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Despite its pleasant sounding name, the so-called Sandbox Effect is more like quicksand than a playground to many webmasters.
Named for the phenomenon of new websites being held back, in the search engine results pages (SERPs) by leading search engine Google, the Sandbox Effect has many website owners upset. When a new website is indexed in Google, it often receives what many observers consider to be a new site bonus. The brand new site will rocket to the top of the SERPs charts for a brief, shining moment. From there, it's all downhill.
After the initial glorious days at the top of the search rankings for the most important keywords, the site finds itself so deeply buried in the Google SERPs as to be almost non-existent. Even though the website may have strong Google PageRank, many powerful and themed incoming links, and good content, the site will still feel the dampening effect of the Sandbox.
While the website is buried deeply in the sand at Google, the same site may enjoy strong search rankings, for the same keyword phrases in Yahoo and MSN Search. The Sandbox Effect appears to be a Google only event.
You need to examine what you can do to get out of the Sandbox. How you can use the time spent in the sandy desert, can help your site explode back into the SERPs when the damper is removed.
The Sandbox Effect appears to be a search ranking damping filter, applied by Google, to sites for their first two to four months after the initial launch "fresh site bonus". The bonus for brand new sites is to appear very highly in the SERPs for a short time, based on Google's preference for fresh content.
As formerly new content ages slightly, the Sandbox filter kicks in. That is the Sandbox Effect. The average length of time for a site to remain trapped in the sand is about ninety days, although stays in the holding pattern lasting four months, are not uncommon.
Most sites appear to share the damping down effect, regardless of keyword category. The Sandbox filter appears to apply to all sites, whether or not they have many incoming links or not. Having well themed links appears to make little difference either. Content rich sites also get mired in the quicksand. Because of the near universality of the Sandbox, it must be part of Google's algorithm.
From SEOChat article on Google Sandbox
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Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:27 pm
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IncognitoNet
Joined: 20 Aug 2004
Posts: 69
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That has even happened to our own company site. We were #1 for our company name, but after making numerous posts on forums, we've dropped down into the third page O_O
We had to purchase Google AdWords for our company name so people will be able to find our site quickly from a Google search.
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Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:01 am
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UnXpected
Joined: 19 Aug 2004
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| Re: The Google Sandbox |
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quote:
Originally posted by Thermit
Despite its pleasant sounding name, the so-called Sandbox Effect is more like quicksand than a playground to many webmasters.
Named for the phenomenon of new websites being held back, in the search engine results pages (SERPs) by leading search engine Google, the Sandbox Effect has many website owners upset. When a new website is indexed in Google, it often receives what many observers consider to be a new site bonus. The brand new site will rocket to the top of the SERPs charts for a brief, shining moment. From there, it's all downhill.
After the initial glorious days at the top of the search rankings for the most important keywords, the site finds itself so deeply buried in the Google SERPs as to be almost non-existent. Even though the website may have strong Google PageRank, many powerful and themed incoming links, and good content, the site will still feel the dampening effect of the Sandbox.
While the website is buried deeply in the sand at Google, the same site may enjoy strong search rankings, for the same keyword phrases in Yahoo and MSN Search. The Sandbox Effect appears to be a Google only event.
You need to examine what you can do to get out of the Sandbox. How you can use the time spent in the sandy desert, can help your site explode back into the SERPs when the damper is removed.
The Sandbox Effect appears to be a search ranking damping filter, applied by Google, to sites for their first two to four months after the initial launch "fresh site bonus". The bonus for brand new sites is to appear very highly in the SERPs for a short time, based on Google's preference for fresh content.
As formerly new content ages slightly, the Sandbox filter kicks in. That is the Sandbox Effect. The average length of time for a site to remain trapped in the sand is about ninety days, although stays in the holding pattern lasting four months, are not uncommon.
Most sites appear to share the damping down effect, regardless of keyword category. The Sandbox filter appears to apply to all sites, whether or not they have many incoming links or not. Having well themed links appears to make little difference either. Content rich sites also get mired in the quicksand. Because of the near universality of the Sandbox, it must be part of Google's algorithm.
From SEOChat article on Google Sandbox
I don really agree that this exist. But it may be true.
Haha What am i toking 
It is not proven.
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Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:29 am
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Cibok
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Wrong, sandbox has been proven lots and lots of times.
Take a look at my new commander keen site: http://www.commander-keen.com
It has PR6
225 Backlinks
Optimized for the keyphraze "Commander Keen"
Now go to google and make a search for "Commander Keen". My site is nowhere to be found. Even the first listning is a PR5 and has just 22 backlinks pointing to it. My site can't be found because it is in the sandbox. In a few months, I think I should rank highly.
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Tue Aug 31, 2004 6:59 pm
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UnXpected
Joined: 19 Aug 2004
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If you check with those ppls in SEO chat, they will tell you is not really proven. I believe google will have a reason. Example http://www.bestworkonline.com is listed in Yahoo but not in Google. Do you know why? Some ppls in SEO chat say is sandbox but some say is not proven. As for me i think is not realy true (50 / 50)
Last week i email google and beg and email to review. then i found out that is becos of over seo that cost it (Spam). 
They have lot of reasons.
That affect my http://www.bizhelpforum.com too but now this forum is been indexed back but the other is still not.
I believe get backlink with keyword "Commander Keen" will help. Use Commander Keen in h1 too.
Sandbox may exist but no one really know.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:33 am
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Cibok
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Well time will tell.
I pretty much belive I will be on top in a few months, because I'm currently in the sandbox.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:32 am
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Thermit
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Joined: 11 Aug 2004
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quote:
That has even happened to our own company site. We were #1 for our company name, but after making numerous posts on forums, we've dropped down into the third page O_O
That is an interesting point, Incognito.
I was reading on another webmaster forum that someone was doing alright in their rankings until they got a site-wide link on another website to theirs, then they didn't rank well at all for their term, which was probably in the anchor text, like in your case.
It makes me wonder if something is getting tripped in the Goog algy that makes it think "Ah-ha" is there a so-called "over optimization penalty"? Like having too many links appear at once, with the exact same anchor text?
I don't know, something to think about...
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